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RealID
Jul 7, 2010 9:48:39 GMT
Post by si on Jul 7, 2010 9:48:39 GMT
Lots of people having issues with the new realID system Blizzard have implemented -- It assigns your real life full name to your Battle.net account, which is then displayed on all your forum posts. So, If Stu trolled the forum again, someone could easily find his real name, and some one with a tiny amount of skill could easily locate him and post a DILDO to his house (... Actually happened.. 1st link). Thoughts? Good idea? bad idea? Personally, I think it's shit! Although it's not hard to guess my real from my usual internet moniker, I wouldn't want every douchebag to know my real name! hellmode.com/2010/07/06/why-real-id-is-a-really-bad-idea/kokugamer.com/2010/07/06/battle-nets-realid-reveals-your-real-name/
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RealID
Jul 7, 2010 10:04:08 GMT
Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 7, 2010 10:04:08 GMT
it says the dildo was posted before realid was implemented. personally im sick of all these anons. will make people think twice about being a troll too.
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RealID
Jul 7, 2010 10:05:32 GMT
Post by falgorn on Jul 7, 2010 10:05:32 GMT
There is a MASSIVE shit storm brewing about this.
In a nutshell -
Any forum posts on official blizz forums will carry you're real name. Friends of Friends in game can see your real name.
Basically - you camp / tea bag someone in game that is a bit of a sociopath and you could be in real serious trouble.
It's possibly the worst thing I've ever seen Blizz do. At this point in time I've deleted most of my friends lists bar a small circle of people doing the same.
I generally don't panic - but I've had some really angry people flame me in games before - and giving them my real name is actually something I would worry about. There is always the chance you get that one crazy person who shows up at your door.
Really surprised by this.
I have a feeling you might see them backtrack - someone posted there name just to prove it wasn't an issue. That person has just had their life ruined (300 pizza's in one night)
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RealID
Jul 7, 2010 10:28:05 GMT
Post by falgorn on Jul 7, 2010 10:28:05 GMT
it says the dildo was posted before realid was implemented. personally im sick of all these anons. will make people think twice about being a troll too. You're right and your wrong. Moderation needs to be better - but lets say you kill someone 2/3 times and they pull an Andre style rage quit. Then they check your sig, and find a forum post you made about leveling as a tanking druid. Now - through no fault of your own you have some psycho asshole with your name. You didn't troll anyone, but now you are being screwed. TBH - the other argument against this is that fucktards with no life and nothing better to do will still troll and harrass - professionals or people with concern about their private data (usually the type that give sound advice, do up spreadsheets etc and generally are more positivly pro-active) will stop using the forums. This can only reduce the quality imo. I'm generalising - but not by much me thinks.
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RealID
Jul 7, 2010 10:31:27 GMT
Post by si on Jul 7, 2010 10:31:27 GMT
In this day in age, with fraud and identity theft being such an issue.. I can live without my full name being displayed to strangers because I choose to play a certain game.
It's total BS, IMO.
Fal, you seem to know the most about this.. .What's to stop you lying and using a made up name?
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RealID
Jul 7, 2010 11:54:14 GMT
Post by falgorn on Jul 7, 2010 11:54:14 GMT
Well when you set up you're account initially, most people use their real name for the backend stuff. I think it made it easier when setting up credit cards aswell. I know for a fact that I used my real name for my account.
It generally makes it easier should something happen to the account and u need to prove you are you (ie passport - drivers license). You could fake it out, but if ure account is compromised, or u forget the password or change email - you are screwed.
Also - once u have put your name in, this can never be changed. You are you, so if you wanted to change, you would need a new account.
Basically - new players that don't care about account security can put John Doe down. Everyone else will have to accept the change.
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RealID
Jul 7, 2010 16:33:48 GMT
Post by sovietstu on Jul 7, 2010 16:33:48 GMT
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 8:16:52 GMT
Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 8:16:52 GMT
Jay & Silent Bob on RealID
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 12:06:57 GMT
Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 12:06:57 GMT
THIS IS GENIUSasnowstormbyanyothername.blogspot.com/Someone's posted details of major Blizzard employees including telelphone numbers, family details, house addresses, hobbys, facebook pages etc. All of this was found from using their realID!
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 12:36:13 GMT
Post by sovietstu on Jul 8, 2010 12:36:13 GMT
That's pretty funny. I haven't used this RealID yet, since I believe it's not compulsory? Think I'll give it a miss until they (inevitably) scale back some of the privacy issues
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 12:36:35 GMT
Post by falgorn on Jul 8, 2010 12:36:35 GMT
It's getting quite messy. I still think the end-result here is that the furor will die down, and things will go back to normal.
I would say however that a LOT of people will stop using forums, some will trickle back - but most that stop wont go back.
Of the ones that do go, I'd say virtually none of them will be trolls and the forums will not improve (not that they are really that bad anyway).
The **VERY** first time someone gets knifed because of in-game trash talking and subsequent discovery of their name, this is going to hit the media - big time.
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 13:51:47 GMT
Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 13:51:47 GMT
THIS IS GENIUSasnowstormbyanyothername.blogspot.com/Someone's posted details of major Blizzard employees including telelphone numbers, family details, house addresses, hobbys, facebook pages etc. All of this was found from using their realID! more like a baby throwing his toys out of the pram. these people have a choice. either they play WOW or don't. frankly i don't care either way. Will be interesting to see in the long run whether or not Blizzard will still have all the players gripped by the balls on this one. I'm guessing some will stop playing for a while... until the heart palpitations kick in and they need a WOW fix
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 14:11:36 GMT
Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 14:11:36 GMT
What I do LVOE about the internet is that it's easy to do anything... Sooo.. People are pissed at Blizzard with this realID think.. So far they have 2000 pages of complaints on the forums A true democracy
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 15:04:25 GMT
Post by falgorn on Jul 8, 2010 15:04:25 GMT
THIS IS GENIUSasnowstormbyanyothername.blogspot.com/Someone's posted details of major Blizzard employees including telelphone numbers, family details, house addresses, hobbys, facebook pages etc. All of this was found from using their realID! more like a baby throwing his toys out of the pram. these people have a choice. either they play WOW or don't. frankly i don't care either way. Will be interesting to see in the long run whether or not Blizzard will still have all the players gripped by the balls on this one. I'm guessing some will stop playing for a while... until the heart palpitations kick in and they need a WOW fix Actually you are being very flippent there. Blizzard are giving into the trolls and punishing respectable forum users. You only get access to the forums by having an active accout so technically you are paying for it. I won't post there now, and nor will a great many others for many valid reasons. I'm not quitting wow - but I am quitting the forums which I only ever really use for spec advice or tech support. I'm a fairly rational person and I'm genuinely quite annoyed about this and also that a security flaw has broadcast my name to people on my friends list (plenty on there I don't know well enough to give that info). Anyway - I'm not quitting or anything like that - but I do think it is a very bad idea and one that is going to cause problems for them.
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 15:28:49 GMT
Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 15:28:49 GMT
It's only a matter of time before your WOW character accounts, along with your battle.net accounts, which of course ties into Starcraft 2. Hmm.. Realeasing realID system JUST before StarCraft 2 is launched.. yep.. I predict your realID (full name) will be on display in all SC2 Multiplayer games
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RealID
Jul 8, 2010 15:30:14 GMT
Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 15:30:14 GMT
more like a baby throwing his toys out of the pram. these people have a choice. either they play WOW or don't. frankly i don't care either way. Will be interesting to see in the long run whether or not Blizzard will still have all the players gripped by the balls on this one. I'm guessing some will stop playing for a while... until the heart palpitations kick in and they need a WOW fix Actually you are being very flippent there. Blizzard are giving into the trolls and punishing respectable forum users. You only get access to the forums by having an active accout so technically you are paying for it. I won't post there now, and nor will a great many others for many valid reasons. I'm not quitting wow - but I am quitting the forums which I only ever really use for spec advice or tech support. I'm a fairly rational person and I'm genuinely quite annoyed about this and also that a security flaw has broadcast my name to people on my friends list (plenty on there I don't know well enough to give that info). Anyway - I'm not quitting or anything like that - but I do think it is a very bad idea and one that is going to cause problems for them. two wrongs don't make a right. i'm just saying.
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RealID
Jul 9, 2010 10:12:44 GMT
Post by si on Jul 9, 2010 10:12:44 GMT
OWNED
"One Blizzard employee, in an attempt to prove that Real ID will not be a privacy problem, posted his full name, Micah Whipple, as a challenge. Soon after, a blog post on WoW Riot appeared listing Micah’s address, phone number, age, and more. Micah has now taken down his Facebook profile."
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RealID
Jul 9, 2010 10:38:50 GMT
Post by falgorn on Jul 9, 2010 10:38:50 GMT
It will be SO hard for Blizzard to back down from this - though I have to thnk they prob wish they could.
I suspect this is something that wouldn't have happened if Activision wasn't involved.
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RealID
Jul 9, 2010 10:39:32 GMT
Post by si on Jul 9, 2010 10:39:32 GMT
It does smell of big corporate Activision
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RealID
Jul 9, 2010 16:50:23 GMT
Post by sovietstu on Jul 9, 2010 16:50:23 GMT
I read this in the comments section of the BBC page about RealID, seems fairly spot on....
"Those of us protesting this idiotic decision are doing so because not only does it put our own identities at risk to anyone who decides they want to have a bit of fun with Warcraft players, but because it puts at risk vunerable members of society whose only crime is to enjoy an online game and want to talk about it.
I am internet savvy enough not to go around giving out personal details on Facebook or Friendface or whatever. But not everyone is. There are minors playing this game, some of whom are naive enough to believe it when "John Smith" will help them in game if they give them their MSN contact details.
Then there are female players. In game admitting you are a woman will lead to poorly executed attempts at flirting at best, and outright stalking if you are not so lucky. So why on earth would any sane woman want her real life details given out freely?
Blizzard even had one of their employees reveal his name, to prove the system safe. Within fifteen minutes his address, parents names, girlfriends name, likes dislikes, last job he held, even his driving offences were revealed to everyone. Not only that he and his family recieved numerous threats and another gentleman who was unfortunate enough to share the same name found himself being harassed for reasons entirely unknown to him.
When we signed up for this game, when we gave our contact details to Blizzard they assured us they were for their use only, that they would not be given to third party companies nor other users. This change is make a lie of that promise. And if we cannot trust them to honour their original contract, how on earth can we trust them now.
And the real question is, will Blizzard take responsibility for those harmed by this change? Will they be compensating families who get harrassed because their son plays an online game? Will they be compensating those who get abused for the sole crime of having the same name as someone who does play the game? Somehow i think not."
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