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Post by barnettizer on Mar 7, 2008 11:14:33 GMT
Well I shall get it anyway as I'm not playing anything other than CoD4 at the moment anyway, so just to give me a change occasionally. Ohh tell a lie, I have had a few blasts on TF2 recently too, thats a nice little game, shame we never play it much. all will change tuesday evening When... [glow=red,2,300]Barnettizer Returns[/glow]cue overused epic music 'Requiem for a dream' www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwU ;D
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Post by Razorik on Mar 7, 2008 11:18:00 GMT
Well I shall get it anyway as I'm not playing anything other than CoD4 at the moment anyway, so just to give me a change occasionally. Ohh tell a lie, I have had a few blasts on TF2 recently too, thats a nice little game, shame we never play it much. all will change tuesday evening When... [glow=red,2,300]Barnettizer Returns[/glow]cue overused epic music 'Requiem for a dream' www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwU ;D ZOMG You will have to take on Stu at CoD4 again in a 1v1
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Post by barnettizer on Mar 7, 2008 11:23:04 GMT
ZOMG You will have to take on Stu at CoD4 again in a 1v1 can i get a Megalol?
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 11:25:41 GMT
Well I shall get it anyway as I'm not playing anything other than CoD4 at the moment anyway, so just to give me a change occasionally. Ohh tell a lie, I have had a few blasts on TF2 recently too, thats a nice little game, shame we never play it much. all will change tuesday evening When... [glow=red,2,300]Barnettizer Returns[/glow]cue overused epic music 'Requiem for a dream' www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2Ma4BvMUwU ;D Nice choice of music. Clint Mansell FTW! Also, one of my favourite films EVER! Highly reccomended to all!.. Except Stu.. Who won't like it cos it has no Cylons!
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Post by barnettizer on Mar 7, 2008 11:31:51 GMT
Nice choice of music. Clint Mansell FTW! Also, one of my favourite films EVER! Highly reccomended to all!.. Except Stu.. Who won't like it cos it has no Cylons! ive put it on my 'to watch list'. any film with a rating of 8.5 on IMDB is worth checking out.
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 11:38:01 GMT
Nice choice of music. Clint Mansell FTW! Also, one of my favourite films EVER! Highly reccomended to all!.. Except Stu.. Who won't like it cos it has no Cylons! ive put it on my 'to watch list'. any film with a rating of 8.5 on IMDB is worth checking out. Jennifer Connely Nude (Girl from Labyrinth) = Thought provoking drama and contents = Harsh realisation of addiction = Fantastic cinematography, direction & editing = Parts of the film are hard to watch, and the score adds to that by being quite harsh at times, and generally fucked up. It's not a "happy" film though.. But then the best art never is.
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Post by Razorik on Mar 7, 2008 11:42:56 GMT
ive put it on my 'to watch list'. any film with a rating of 8.5 on IMDB is worth checking out. Jennifer Connely Nude (Girl from Labyrinth) = Thought provoking drama and contents = Harsh realisation of addiction = Fantastic cinematography, direction & editing = Parts of the film are hard to watch, and the score adds to that by being quite harsh at times, and generally fucked up. It's not a "happy" film though.. But then the best art never is. Sounds very interesting, I have just read about it. Might have to download it now, happy watching this weekend.
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Post by sovietstu on Mar 7, 2008 11:45:37 GMT
Nice choice of music. Clint Mansell FTW! Also, one of my favourite films EVER! Highly reccomended to all!.. Except Stu.. Who won't like it cos it has no Cylons! Downfall didn't have cylons in...go watch it. Uncultured fools!
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Post by sovietstu on Mar 7, 2008 11:49:14 GMT
BTW - all this "ZOMG R6 WILLL PWN COD4 CUZ IT HAZ TEH TAKTIKS!!1" crap is so very poor.
CoD4 is what you make of it, if you want to employ tactics, go ahead. I fail to see how R6 inherently, as a multiplayer game, "has" more tactics than CoD4?
Does CoD4 have more "tactics" than CS:Source?
Of course not, tactics are for the player(s) to employ and use to their advantage.
Next!
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 11:57:39 GMT
Shame that you're wrong but hey. When I say Tactical, I mean "real-life based tactics" IR6 is classed as a "tactical shooter", because it is based on rel-life tactics/ situations. Don't make me laugh about CS: Source.. In no game should you be able to jump the full height of your body from a stationary position and not get knackered - Add to that the fact that you're running as fast as you can all round - It's just run and gun. COD4 is a great game - But it's not classed as "tactical" for a reason... Yeah I see where you're coming from saying that you "CAN" play tactfully in COD4.. But then that's saying you can play tactfully in Quake3 (run from cover to cover for example)... However, in these games the mechanics do not limit you to real-life tactics and so they are not classed as "tactical shooters" And to be honest, if you want to win you're not going to play with real-world tactics.. Just look at a certain COD4 clan team we played against - They will use every trick in the book in order to win .. and that's fair enough. Take out the ability to mindlessly jump, the unrealistic pistol shooting times, over powered and unbalanced weaponary, and unrealistic movement and then you get your "tactical shooter"... R6V2 will be better *for ME*.. because i've always preferred Tactical shooters ever since playing Swat3 many, many years ago _Sorry for the essay.
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Post by sovietstu on Mar 7, 2008 11:59:55 GMT
Leaning against a wall and getting a full view around the corner while you're entirely in that cover, is not realistic
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 12:15:49 GMT
Leaning against a wall and getting a full view around the corner while you're entirely in that cover, is not realistic Fully agree Stuart. One could argue that it's used instead of using a "magic wand" device (or snake cam) to tactfully see around a corner.. But maybe that's going a little too far. The new R6 vegas still has the 3rd person view but removes the crosshair and makes your weapon much more inaccurate. In my opinion they should have done it in one of two ways: Go 3rd person, but completely blur all details past the wall you're using for cover so u can't see jack OR Go 3rd person, but change the camera perspective so that you can't see past the edge of the wall.. (see attached image)
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Post by Majere on Mar 7, 2008 13:07:50 GMT
Several points have come up in this thread since I read it last, so I'll try and and answer all that I can remember being brought up! 1) R6 v COD: Unfortunately (can't believe I'm saying this) I'm with Stu on this one. At many a LAN me me and some buddies tried to play this game (pre the new Vegas one) and it always ended up the same...with most people completely frustrated at randomness, one way glass (they can shoot you through it but your bullets turn to water upon trying to shoot them etc). COD4 is for mindless blowinmg the hell out of each other, and is the most fun I've had onlien in FPS since COD2 (imo one of the greatest EVER). 2) WOW: As I mentioned in another thread, just got me some T5 gear. This basically means I'm still doing new content, new instances and getting new gear. Re-rolled Fire Mage again too for a blast I totally agree doing 5 70 characters is boring, thats why my warrior was "assisted". I'm in it for end-game content, all I do is instances/raids/occasional PVP, as I refuse to grind etc. 3) Jennifer Connelly nude? I'm going to have to buy that /peace out
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Post by barnettizer on Mar 7, 2008 13:42:32 GMT
Leaning against a wall and getting a full view around the corner while you're entirely in that cover, is not realistic Fully agree Stuart. One could argue that it's used instead of using a "magic wand" device (or snake cam) to tactfully see around a corner.. But maybe that's going a little too far. The new R6 vegas still has the 3rd person view but removes the crosshair and makes your weapon much more inaccurate. In my opinion they should have done it in one of two ways: Go 3rd person, but completely blur all details past the wall you're using for cover so u can't see jack OR Go 3rd person, but change the camera perspective so that you can't see past the edge of the wall.. (see attached image) awesome GFX man! if only all games were like this!
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 14:01:29 GMT
Majere "COD4 is for mindless blowing the hell out of each other" Couldn't agree more. I love COD4... But as you stated.. It's just mindless shooting big guns at each other
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Post by falgorn on Mar 7, 2008 14:16:17 GMT
COD 4 - Hardcore is tactical if your aim is to have a good Kill / Death ratio!
If you want to run around killing and getting shot at that is fine. I would rather have half the top kills and virtually no deaths than be gunning for top spot with heaps of kills.
For that reason I play tactically, moving slowly around the theatre and advancing strategically to take advantage of flank fire. I also use the blind UAV setup on my hardcore build and continually go long ways around the map, pick firing spots and camp!
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 14:33:15 GMT
I never aim for good kill/ death ratio. I aim for winning the match for the team That's where a lot of idiots FAIL in COD4... Fucking snipers standing 5 feet away from the fucking HQ and doing fuck all about it! Fucking idiots!
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Post by Razorik on Mar 7, 2008 14:34:21 GMT
COD 4 - Hardcore is tactical if your aim is to have a good Kill / Death ratio! If you want to run around killing and getting shot at that is fine. I would rather have half the top kills and virtually no deaths than be gunning for top spot with heaps of kills. For that reason I play tactically, moving slowly around the theatre and advancing strategically to take advantage of flank fire. I also use the blind UAV setup on my hardcore build and continually go long ways around the map, pick firing spots and camp! Nice tactics and apart from the occasional noob toob lapse dont we all play the game pretty much tactically. I know I spend most the time in crouch slowly moving under cover and popping a smoke grenade, however I can jump if I wish to do so and go prone too, which, if you like it or not does need to be part of any FPS for realism, afterall, all human beings except those in wheel chairs can jump and pretty much immediately go to ground It may be a sad over used tactic but we can all do it in real life and games should reflect this.
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 14:52:09 GMT
I jump in COD4 - it's great for avoiding claymores and certain shots. And I have no problem with it being the game - Yes, all people jump. But when have you ever seen a soldier in Combat jump (not in a Hollywood film).. You don't.. it's VERY dangerous!.. They keep low at all times What you don't do is jump in the air, and immediately lie down flat
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Post by si on Mar 7, 2008 14:53:29 GMT
In fact I'd like to play airsoft with every bunny hoping bastard i've ever played against on COD4
They wouldn't stand a chance using those tactics!
They'd give themselves away and be knackered!
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