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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 7, 2010 20:19:04 GMT
ok so we've all heard of this before right? but how many of you have actually tried it? i wanted to see the technology myself before pooh poohing it away. so i did scroll down a bit on the link below and you can play the newer version of 'the secret of monkey island' game streamed straight to your browser. kotaku.com/5528245/you-can-play-the-secret-of-monkey-island-inside-this-postthis tech has also been rolled out to the PS3 so you can play streamed games on your console. i tried it in internet explorer on a cruddy pc and was amazed. it works really well. but there is another good thing about this technology... no huge downloads for game demos! imagine being able to try the game instead of viewing trailers or waiting for a 5 gig download followed by an install makers: www.instantaction.com/
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 6:20:21 GMT
There's a BIG difference between streaming a 2.5d game with "digitally painted" backgrounds, and moving 2d sprites as opposed to a 3d multiplayer shooter.
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Post by falgorn on Jul 8, 2010 6:51:23 GMT
I played streaming Quake 3 with an average browser and it was epic.
I think the future may just be faster internet and centralised content. Maybe some localised content but for the most part - I think google is onto something with those big datacentres they are dropping all over the place!
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 8:06:02 GMT
I played streaming Quake 3 with an average browser and it was epic. I think the future may just be faster internet and centralised content. Maybe some localised content but for the most part - I think google is onto something with those big datacentres they are dropping all over the place! You are talking about Quake Live? Hardly streaming.. When I tried it, it had to download a couple of hundred megs of data to run.
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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 8:22:59 GMT
re si's comments: wow . the pessimism is strong in this one The technology can be used for 3d games. That's what they are saying. It just happens to be the only demo i can show you at the moment. more will come...
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 8:41:11 GMT
Of course it can be used... But what's the point!?
No Mods? No vast customisation? Potential lag spikes? Inability to even play single player games without a working internet connection? Limited saving abilty?
And what about games you play regularaly? back in the day I played the original LEFT4DEAD *A LOT*.. If I used streaming technology I reckon I would have used more bandwidth than just playing the game locally from my system
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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 9:02:16 GMT
its not going to be perfect for everything just now. your missing the point i said in my original post it would be good for game demos and consoles. the ability to play any game on your tv instantly on any platform is also a huge plus. the whole 'but what if im offline? QQ' argument is wearing thin. mostly due to the fact as time goes by cloud computing is only going to be used more, get bigger and become more reliable. There will be a time when everyone has a fibre optic link to their house and data centres will be local. You can say bye bye to consoles when that happens. Its gonna be huge and i just wish i could find a way to cash in on it
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 9:09:59 GMT
I think the "what if i'm offline" argument is getting stronger. Mobile gaming is becoming more and mroe of a standard and popular business model, and people take mobile devices to places where internet connectivity can be troublesome. I see your point that it has it's place in certain things... But I personally couldn't care less I like the way things work. I like physically having the resources i've paid for and loading things locally
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Post by falgorn on Jul 8, 2010 9:26:00 GMT
TBH ...
If I just had some free time to actually play games either localised, streamed - or playing while sitting in a cloud I'd be frikken happy.
Oh to be some kind of student again.
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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 9:40:26 GMT
I think the "what if i'm offline" argument is getting stronger. Mobile gaming is becoming more and mroe of a standard and popular business model, and people take mobile devices to places where internet connectivity can be troublesome. I see your point that it has it's place in certain things... But I personally couldn't care less I like the way things work. I like physically having the resources i've paid for and loading things locally i love how you always base things around YOU. im talking mass appeal here. technology has the ability to involve others even when its something you don't so desire (knowing and seeing trends like these makes a good business man btw ). i'm interested in how people use technology. i too would rather have a monster pc that will emulate every system in the universe to play what i want and do what i want but for a lot of people... that's no choice! i look forward to the advancements of this tech and potential improvements it will bring with it. imagine the network enhancements invested in purely because of a surge in demand for streamed content other than TV / Film. it would benefit all of us
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 10:09:25 GMT
I don't base things around me -- I stated in my last post that PERSONALLY I couldn't give a fuck about it, yes ... But before that I was discussing the mobile gaming platform which is becoming bigger -- Personally I couldn't give too shits about that either because all the games are shit and useless and only serve as minor distractions until something better comes along (sounds like someone I know)... But that's what's popular now. Also, with streaming EVERYTHING comes increased bandwidth used, and those costs will be passed down to the end user no matter what. In fact, this week Rapidshare annouced a new pricing structure based completely on the amount of data you download from them (rather than a free for all flat fee).. No doubt because it was costing too much money to allow everyone to download everything they wish. Source: rapidshare.com/news.htmlAlso, Infrastructure: Current ISP's, telephone cables, and BT exchanges can only handle so much data.. If suddenly everyone in my area was streaming every little thing to their house congestion would occur and downloading porn would be really slow for me So with the above facts stated.. It's time for personal opinions: I'm all for downloading content, and storing it locally. I just feel we're no-where near ready for 100% streaming Britain. TLDR: Fuck streaming.
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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 10:27:46 GMT
again all im hearing is 'me me me'. This thread isn't about mobile gaming. just the feasibility and potential of Streamed Gaming refer to my last post regarding investment in infrastructure. currently we are in the minority of internet users who 'max out' our bandwidth on a regular basis. because of a) so called 'illegal downloads' and b) huge downloads of game titles but mostly a).Internet service providers will be forced to upgrade their networks if bandwidth increases are as a result of legitimate purposes. take a look at japan, they have gigabit connections to their door for crying out loud. www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2008/09/japan_gets_gigabit_fibre_internet_connections.htmlwanna know why? everything is streamed to them! screw broadcast television. stream me a 1080p movie for the GF and let me play the latest new game in the other room via Instant action at the same time like i said... so many benefits of embracing a new technology. i hope this takes off. if it doesnt then it will only be at the fault of the people responsible for marketing.
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 10:41:40 GMT
Japan was fucking nuked.. TWICE. They built their infrastructure from scratch. We're using such old and outdated technology in parts of our infrastructure... Don't expect Japanese internet speeds tommorow mr Barnett
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Post by sovietstu on Jul 8, 2010 11:11:42 GMT
I remember OnLive advertising that you could play WoW on it - we were like "who the fuck plays wow vanilla? As in, without mods? I use about 10 mods - fuck that, I couldn't play it without mods!"
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 11:15:28 GMT
And where is OnLive now? It's STILL in Beta.. Only accepting people in a certain area with high speed broadband requirements.. And then there's a loooong waiting list! You also have to pay a monthly fee to use the service *AND* purchase each game you wish to play - And they can pull a game from the service at any time.. Then you can't play it anymore
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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 11:36:47 GMT
I remember OnLive advertising that you could play WoW on it - we were like "who the fuck plays wow vanilla? As in, without mods? I use about 10 mods - fuck that, I couldn't play it without mods!" question is... after 'MurderLink(c) Beta' sorry i mean RealID, Who will be left to play wow?
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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 11:46:20 GMT
Japan was fucking nuked.. TWICE. They built their infrastructure from scratch. We're using such old and outdated technology in parts of our infrastructure... Don't expect Japanese internet speeds tommorow mr Barnett oh yeah, im sure during the fallout of the 1945 bomings the number 1 priority was gigabit broadband. give me a break. retarded statement of the year award goes to... my point was the demand for streamed content is partly responsible for Network enhancements in Japan. Over here ISP's shat a brick when BBC iPlayer was launched. were a bloody joke. i unashamedly admit i hate Britain. Well... England to be exact. Nothing cool hapens here any more... just filled with gun crazed police hatin mofo's.
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Post by si on Jul 8, 2010 11:56:19 GMT
I'm not saying that when Japan got bombed they installed high speed broadband... But it gave them a chance to start from scratch and build a fresh infrastucture with room for improvement. Much the same way that the bombing of Berlin in 1945 allowed them to build better modern building, and how the great fire of London of 1666 allowed them to rebuilt the shitty parts of the city -- GCSE History 101 Barnett learn it Why do you hate England?
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Post by sovietstu on Jul 8, 2010 11:57:30 GMT
Barnett. Don't be a retard.
Japan's infrastructure was/is in a better position to be upgraded/modified because we blew it all up, and rebuilt it in 1945. Trains, roads, telephone, etc.
All of ours was put up hundreds on years ago.
They want to upgrade london's sewers to cope with demand -problem; it's fucking Victorian and won't upgrade easily. It's a similar issue with the phone lines, especially since no one company owns them, has responsibility for them.
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Post by BtizeF200 on Jul 8, 2010 13:16:36 GMT
I'm not saying that when Japan got bombed they installed high speed broadband... But it gave them a chance to start from scratch and build a fresh infrastucture with room for improvement. Much the same way that the bombing of Berlin in 1945 allowed them to build better modern building, and how the great fire of London of 1666 allowed them to rebuilt the shitty parts of the city -- GCSE History 101 Barnett learn it Why do you hate England? lol again your MISSING THE F***ING POINT. History Lesson my arse. im talking about the demand. this has nothing to do with Japan and Ethernet / fibre optic wire renovation. LOL WHAT YOUR SAYING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LAYING CABLES IN THE GROUND. what you think we cant roll out fibre optic exchanges to every junction box on a street because we need a few nukes here and there? of course we can. We wont get it the same time as everyone else but give it time. We need more legitimate purposes for increased broadband speed!
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