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Post by si on Apr 28, 2008 10:20:13 GMT
Forming our own guild is cool.. Except many people on this board aren't going to play the game.. And you need a rather hefty sized guild to experience the cool stuff in the game - I.e. building your own cities/ siege warfare etc. IGN preview of Seige Warfare: uk.pc.ign.com/articles/869/869633p1.html
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Post by sovietstu on Apr 28, 2008 11:33:50 GMT
The misplaced faith and fanboyism is strong with this one! ;D I love being so cynical at heart - it allows me to see clearly
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Post by sovietstu on Apr 28, 2008 11:39:27 GMT
Jesus christ, this game is gonna be ok at best. PLEASE SOMEONE! JESUS CHRIST! HOW MANY MMO LAUNCHES HAVE WE SEEN? HOW MANY OF THEM PROMISED SO MUCH AND IN THE END FAILED TO DELIVER? JESUS TITTY FUCKING CHRIST! AM I THE ONLY ONE (with the exception of Fal) WHO HAS WEATHERED SO MANY MMO LAUNCHES, THEY KNOW THAT ALL THIS HYPE IS GONNA BE FOR NOTHING? HOLY FUCK! GUYS! GET SOME CYNICISM!Just had to get that out of my system. I had the same standpoint on Vegas 2. Oh look, damn, i was so right there too... If i have an ego, it's brought on by the fact that i'm right, 99.7% of the time. This game will probably be fun, but will also fall so short of the MASS HYSTERIA certain people are throwing at it.
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Post by sovietstu on Apr 28, 2008 11:57:39 GMT
I should probably also point out that i do hope this game is good. I really do. I'll play it a lot if it is.
I've just seen too many pre-release mmo videos, "HAY GUZY CHECK OTU OUUR NEW FEECHURE!!" to know that, when you finally get in game you're left thinking...
"hey, this isn't anywhere as cool as the vids made out!"
There are too god damn many examples to list.
Restraint is the key. So i've kinda sheltered myself from this game, the videos, the screenshots, the hype. I just wanna log in thursday for the beta, and let it impress me, not fall short!
(in theory at least).
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Post by falgorn on Apr 28, 2008 12:01:56 GMT
Let’s just say if the game elements are implemented as well as AoC are making out, then the initial ingenuity which AoC have already delivered on a theoretical level should produce a solid gaming platform.
or..
None of the combat systems will work properly and be removed pending a later 'patch' which will continually be pushed back in favour of crappy content updates. 1 - 2 of the game classes will dominate in every circumstance, the forums will fill up with whine and AoC will hire a new PR team to spin the games steadily decline into something positive to keep up its .0002% market share absorption per month.
All the cool stuff this game is implementing means jack if it isn't tested right and this is where I expect failure.
If upon release things are well implemented, working and all promised content is in the box, then I will buy a game that has lived upto initial promise and as such - future expectation looks solid.
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Post by Razorik on Apr 28, 2008 12:14:59 GMT
I'm, not going to bother with the beta on AoC or Warhammer. I am sick of doing that and having my view tarnished on the game. I have yet to enjoy a single beta I have played tbh. and yup I agree with Stu on the Vegas 2 game, I have already taken it off my hard drive as there is no reason to play the game
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Post by si on Apr 28, 2008 13:27:58 GMT
"this game is gonna be ok at best."
"i do hope this game is good. I really do. I'll play it a lot if it is."
- Just seems conflicting statements to me :S
Also, I used up all my MMO cynicism on that fuck aweful WOW Expansion... "10 levels of doing the same old shit in new locations"*.. Woohoo ;D
*personal opinion: Not open to debate
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Post by sovietstu on Apr 28, 2008 14:27:13 GMT
"this game is gonna be ok at best." "i do hope this game is good. I really do. I'll play it a lot if it is." - Just seems conflicting statements to me :S Also, I used up all my MMO cynicism on that fuck aweful WOW Expansion... "10 levels of doing the same old shit in new locations"*.. Woohoo ;D *personal opinion: Not open to debateThey aren't conflicting. I hope its gonna be as good as they make out. But i'll bet you £5 it's not. Just like Vegas 2. Did i mention i totally predicted the Vegas 2 situation? That it'd kinda suck and not warrant purchase? Did i mention that? That rik and terry have uninstalled it cause i was so right? Did i? lol.
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Post by si on Apr 28, 2008 14:30:57 GMT
So, a game is not good because two people you know uninstalled it!? I myself, and at least one other person in the world uninstalled Halo2 PC shortly after - therefore it sucks Geez.. that was easy to make up complete bullshit to backup my opinions
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Post by falgorn on Apr 28, 2008 14:56:45 GMT
Has anyone actually tried the beta yet?
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Post by Razorik on Apr 28, 2008 15:03:59 GMT
Has anyone actually tried the beta yet? I think Si had a dabble a week or so ago on the pvp weekend.
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Post by Razorik on Apr 28, 2008 15:16:18 GMT
"this game is gonna be ok at best." "i do hope this game is good. I really do. I'll play it a lot if it is." - Just seems conflicting statements to me :S Also, I used up all my MMO cynicism on that fuck aweful WOW Expansion... "10 levels of doing the same old shit in new locations"*.. Woohoo ;D *personal opinion: Not open to debateThey aren't conflicting. I hope its gonna be as good as they make out. But i'll bet you £5 it's not. Just like Vegas 2. Did i mention i totally predicted the Vegas 2 situation? That it'd kinda suck and not warrant purchase? Did i mention that? That rik and terry have uninstalled it cause i was so right? Did i? lol. Vegas 2 was OK, but just that OK! Unfortunately the majority of PC games that have been released recently have been pretty mediocre at best (my opinion!) and I do kind of blame WoW's massive domination of the PC gaming world for this, (again my opinion!) I loved WiC, but no one seems to want to play it. DoW is ok, but tired and old. CoH expansion didnt breath new life into the overcrowded RTS genre. C&C 3 more of the same ol same ol. Sup Com, pretty good game but not a great Single Player experience (in my opinion). Call of Duty 4 was and is a very entertaining multi player game, but you need a clan that plays it to make it more fun. Vegas 2 more of the same as I have said. LOTR, OK average mmo, nothing more than that. Half Life 2 expansions, average re hash / continuation of a story that I'm not too bothered about. Portal, excellent but way too short. TF2, again excellent, but it doesn't stand up to long term playing, 20 to 30 mins is more than enough. I'm sure i could go on, but I think you get my point. There is nothin coming out, so I for one really hope Conan can be good enough, otherwise I'll be waiting for Warhammer to try and be playable and if that fails well I just give up. Waffle Over
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Post by si on Apr 28, 2008 16:06:59 GMT
I agree with your points Rik. Luckily atm I have Trackmania, The Witcher & Assassins Creed to play I'm dying to play GTA IV and may even purchase an Xbox 360 to do it on... PC gaming for me is a bit dead.. Hoping Conan will be good, i'll try Warhammer (but what i've read hasn't got me excited). It's the end of the year i'm looking forward to the most: Spore & Left4dead. As with you, Rik, I also blame WoW.. Along with EA (for releasing the same old shit), and piracy.
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Post by sovietstu on Apr 28, 2008 18:04:54 GMT
I agree with your points Rik. Luckily atm I have Trackmania, The Witcher & Assassins Creed to play I'm dying to play GTA IV and may even purchase an Xbox 360 to do it on... PC gaming for me is a bit dead.. Hoping Conan will be good, i'll try Warhammer (but what i've read hasn't got me excited). It's the end of the year i'm looking forward to the most: Spore & Left4dead. As with you, Rik, I also blame WoW.. Along with EA (for releasing the same old shit), and piracy. Yeah, and i blame mike tyson, the goonies, and Adolf hitler.
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Post by ticks on Apr 28, 2008 20:03:49 GMT
It sounds good to me, building a keep and having to defend it or attacking another guilds keep so you can take it over!!
I can see the return of the old flame wars we used to be on the SWG forums. Good fun ;D
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Post by si on Apr 28, 2008 21:44:39 GMT
I agree with your points Rik. Luckily atm I have Trackmania, The Witcher & Assassins Creed to play I'm dying to play GTA IV and may even purchase an Xbox 360 to do it on... PC gaming for me is a bit dead.. Hoping Conan will be good, i'll try Warhammer (but what i've read hasn't got me excited). It's the end of the year i'm looking forward to the most: Spore & Left4dead. As with you, Rik, I also blame WoW.. Along with EA (for releasing the same old shit), and piracy. Yeah, and i blame mike tyson, the goonies, and Adolf hitler. To quote Barnet... FAILED
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Post by sovietstu on Apr 29, 2008 6:53:20 GMT
Yeah, and i blame mike tyson, the goonies, and Adolf hitler. To quote Barnet... FAILEDNot really. I loved how you plucked these things out the air for the alleged decline of gaming - superb! EA? Sure, they're whores, but, erm, hello? They innovate too? Dead Space? This new free-to-play Battlefield model? Crysis and all that ilk? WoW can be alleged to have hurt gaming, but flip it around - it's got some people gaming who perhaps never otherwise would have. I know people who haven't played/don't play anything else. And piracy? Maybe i guess. There are people who "try before they buy", though, and then buy software they may not have otherwise. Anyways....I believe YOUR shipment of FAIL has well and truely arrived
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Post by Razorik on Apr 29, 2008 8:04:41 GMT
Not really. I loved how you plucked these things out the air for the alleged decline of gaming - superb! EA? Sure, they're whores, but, erm, hello? They innovate too? Dead Space? This new free-to-play Battlefield model? Crysis and all that ilk? WoW can be alleged to have hurt gaming, but flip it around - it's got some people gaming who perhaps never otherwise would have. I know people who haven't played/don't play anything else. And piracy? Maybe i guess. There are people who "try before they buy", though, and then buy software they may not have otherwise. Anyways....I believe YOUR shipment of FAIL has well and truely arrived I think I might ban large typeset of words like FAIL / FAILED / PWNED
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Post by si on Apr 29, 2008 8:24:55 GMT
Not really. I loved how you plucked these things out the air for the alleged decline of gaming - superb! EA? Sure, they're whores, but, erm, hello? They innovate too? Dead Space? This new free-to-play Battlefield model? Crysis and all that ilk? WoW can be alleged to have hurt gaming, but flip it around - it's got some people gaming who perhaps never otherwise would have. I know people who haven't played/don't play anything else. And piracy? Maybe i guess. There are people who "try before they buy", though, and then buy software they may not have otherwise. Anyways....I believe YOUR shipment of FAIL has well and truely arrived Jesus Christ Stuart. 2 things. 1> Learn to accept peoples opinions. 2> Learn to read: I never said "decline".. The reasons I stated were for the mediocrity of PC gaming - Based off Riks original post. And I know you wordship your WoW.. It's not their fault per se.. It's every other company creating MMOs in the same vein as WoW.. Not originality... That's why Conan holds more interest to me that WAR. As for Piracy - Obviously every illegal download does not equal one lost sale - It doesn't work like that, but it doesn't help either. I've downloaded a SHITLOAD of games in my time - Some of which I never would have brought. BOTTOM LINE ----------------------------------- PC gaming is turning into UK TV... Years ago a single reality TV show was shown.. Because it was so popular the TV marketplace is now overrun with reality shows and, IMO, it sucks! Innovate FFS!
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Post by BtizeF200 on Apr 29, 2008 8:26:22 GMT
I agree with your points Rik. Luckily atm I have Trackmania, The Witcher & Assassins Creed to play I'm dying to play GTA IV and may even purchase an Xbox 360 to do it on... PC gaming for me is a bit dead.. Hoping Conan will be good, i'll try Warhammer (but what i've read hasn't got me excited). It's the end of the year i'm looking forward to the most: Spore & Left4dead. As with you, Rik, I also blame WoW.. Along with EA (for releasing the same old shit), and piracy. thats an interesting comment. i was saying to stu the other day how gaming for me is at an all time low. i think an xbox 360 and GTA4 can help in that department. also, it just means i can play the latest games without spending shit loads on an upgrade lol. well lets see what happens this month, ill make sure i get the headset when i do... my GF has just recieved a, how do i put it - 'Windfall' so im going to have to be extra nice to her heh
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